Rhyme Nor Reason
O Abraham did you know
What would come of the seeds you sow
Your children chopped up little pieces of the earth
The very mother who sired them, gave them birth
They eat her fruit and then poison it for the others
These others Abraham, are none but their brothers
They fight, they bicker and they feud
Whilst their spawn hunger for but a scrap of food
O Abraham how could you possibly know
What terrible deeds would come of the seeds you sow
posted by Arun at 9:29 AM
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See it is all about perspective. One can create a reason out of thin air if one wants to. Our dear minister wants to chop heads now; I am sure he has found a reason in his head.
All said and done, there may be no valid reason but your rhyme is good.
An 8-year old died in the riots. Why? I don't know and I doubt those stupid protestors have any idea either. But it saddens me, hence the rhyme. Click the picture in the post to read the story. Religion sucks :(
This issue refuses to die down.
What bothers me is that the west/America may actually start viewing Islam the same way they viewed Communism at one point of time.
As for the guy who announced a bounty on the cartoonists head... I'm lost for words. I'm surprised the government hasnt taken any legal action against him.
If politicians continue to allow such mockery in order to appease vote banks and win elections very soon they will be no elections cause there will be no democracy left, just plain anarchy.
Hmm...I hadn't really gone down that road but you make a good point (whoever you are). As for the minister, like all disciplines, politics has its noise makers. How many muslims do you think listen to the venom the Imam spews at Jama Masjid? Very few is my guess. Idiots will be idiots, they don't need other idiots to lead them. Those who are rational on the other hand do not let religion get in the way of civic thought. At least thats what I would expect from an educated Indian.
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Oops That was me, forgot to mention my name in the previous post.
Anand
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To tell you the truth, morbid as it may sound, I'd rather not live in a world without conflict (probably why I don't live in switzerland, aye?). The way I see it, the world's always been on edge. What we're going through today is a lot less scary than the early days of the cold war or the dark ages in Europe for instance.
In today's world countries that let people choose their leaders (thus giving them a chance to improve their lot) are not a rarity. Agreed that most of the world's population still lives under regimes not of their own choosing, but I think this number will go down, not up.
The point I'm trying to make through all this rambling is that real power is shifting from the hands of the individual (the monarch, the crackpot dictator) to people on the streets. If that makes the world a noisy place, then so be it.
Keshav, I get the impression that you're looking at the wrong end of the stick here. What I mean is that there will always be conflict in the world. Thats how people, societies and species in general evolve. Without conflict we'd still be living in caves and eating off the ground. Most people greatly underestimate the great contribution conflict has made to human growth over the years.
Also, I don't believe conflict can necessarily be classified as good or bad. Yes, dropping a bomb and killing a bunch of innocent people is a bad thing. But like it or not, over the long term, its quite possible it could result in something better. Don't forget that humans were only able to take their place on the earth after literally wiping out competing primate variations like the Neanderthals. The enlightenment in Europe was built on the bones of the nobles who ran the place in the dark ages.
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Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Its been said that all we learn from history is that we do not learn anything from history. And it really does not look like we have come any further that "Man make Fire" days. We just have a longer life expectancy and different problems. Conflict paves development seems to be a fundamental fallacy here. Depends on what we mean by development.
Development first...Funkier gadgets? Longer life? More knowledge? More Communication?
Or just a happier life?
What?
A sociologist once told me - Nationalism is the first step to fundamentalism - She also said she was afraid to even share this with her own community
Conflict is inevitable cause thats how humans are built. But maybe it shouldnt be mistaken for something essential or useful?
Maddy, you seem to take a very dim view of human evolution. Saying that all we've managed to achieve since "making fire" is a longer life expectancy is not giving enough credit to humanity. As I read your words, I realize that I do not know you personally (probably never will), haven't ever seen you and don't even know what country you're in. But you can share your views with me and expect a coherent response. Do you realise how many of mankind's achievements went into making that possible? Lets enumerate some of them shall we: language, society, electricity, telecommunication, the the internet.
Conflict gave birth to a lot of these things. Gadgetry and technological development isn't the only kind in the world you know. Whether or not conflict is useful (or even essential) is completely dependant upon context. Context determined by who you are and the time you live in. There's an old chinese proverb that says "May you live in interesting times.". I believe that healthy conflicts make for very interesting times. Besides, the whole discussion of conflict being useful is a moot point, because as you so eloquently put it, "Conflict is inevitable cause thats how humans are built.".
I agree with you on the fact that nationalism is the first step to fundamentalism. However, i'd like to modify that say "nationalism is A first step to fundamentalism". All divisive concepts can and sometimes do lead to fundamentalism. Nationality is no different. Neither is religion, language, color, region or the myriad other ways in which us humans choose to seggregate ourselves from each other.
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